BBC Learning English – Thirty Years of Punk 30 年庞克音乐风雨历程

　　Jean: 庞克摇滚乐队 The Clash 当中的成员 Joe Strummer 当初就是一个格格不入者 a misfit, 其实很多庞克一族都是和时代格格不入的人，people who never quite fitted into society. 让我们来听听 Paul Du Noyer 为我们做的解释。

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　　I think if you look back at the biographies of most of the leading characters, they were misfits as lots of stars actually are when you look back into their private lives, they are people who couldn’t fit into ordinary life, and they either rise above that or they go under.

　　Jean: Paul Du Noyer 接受我们BBC 的采访，谈到了The Clash 乐队成员Joe Strummer. 他说其实很多明星都是所谓的格格不入者，lots of stars are misfits. 他们有的是能够出人头地 they either rise above it, 或者就是因为他们的这种个性而挫败下来，they go under.

　　John: But you know Jean, the punks weren’t necessarily trivial or stupid – they were just outcasts and misfits. Some of them were quite intelligent and had something to say about society.

　　Jean: Paul explains.

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　　Joe Strummer was nott just a misfit, he was a passionately articulate and eloquent kind of man as well. Very entertaining - great talker. I would go and interview him for maybe an hour and find that three days later he was still talking. He’d let me go home in the evening and let me sleep, but he would ask me to come back the next day so that he could carry on!

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